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		<title>By: 366 FREE Internet Marketing Tips AND Secrets</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/outsourcing-the-reality-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>366 FREE Internet Marketing Tips AND Secrets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 10:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Yes, I&#039;ve had a few outsourcing nightmares too. One tip I&#039;d like to share is to make the contract price conditional on timely delivery. For example, if project delivered by X date, then price paid is $Y. If project delivered after X date then price is $Z. If agreed at start, then incentive all round to get the job done quickly. I have found, especially with coders, that deadlines often slip an if you&#039;re not careful, days can turn into weeks into months...

One other quick tip. I have also tried outsourcing some clerical and SEO (social bookmarking etc.) work. I have found that you need to set a time budget for each task. Otherwise, you may find that your job get pushed down the list and most probably, you end up paying for someone else&#039;s work.

Hope this helps. 

All the best, Allen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve had a few outsourcing nightmares too. One tip I&#8217;d like to share is to make the contract price conditional on timely delivery. For example, if project delivered by X date, then price paid is $Y. If project delivered after X date then price is $Z. If agreed at start, then incentive all round to get the job done quickly. I have found, especially with coders, that deadlines often slip an if you&#8217;re not careful, days can turn into weeks into months&#8230;</p>
<p>One other quick tip. I have also tried outsourcing some clerical and SEO (social bookmarking etc.) work. I have found that you need to set a time budget for each task. Otherwise, you may find that your job get pushed down the list and most probably, you end up paying for someone else&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>Hope this helps. </p>
<p>All the best, Allen</p>
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		<title>By: David Congreave</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/outsourcing-the-reality-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>David Congreave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Debby

I&#039;m not a big fan of downlines or anything connected to MLM, so I&#039;m not the best person to advise you on that.

If you&#039;re looking to promote products as an affiliate though, then the two most effective ways I can think of to generate free traffic is either by using traffic exchanges, or creating some original content and using SEO techniques to rank it in the search engines.

There&#039;s a good starter guide to traffic exchanges in the Traffic Soliders members area.  It&#039;s free to join:

http://www.trafficsoldiers.com/?rid=212

And, of course, you can study SEO at my Lucid SEO site (not free though I&#039;m afraid):

http://www.lucid-seo.com

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Debby</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of downlines or anything connected to MLM, so I&#8217;m not the best person to advise you on that.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking to promote products as an affiliate though, then the two most effective ways I can think of to generate free traffic is either by using traffic exchanges, or creating some original content and using SEO techniques to rank it in the search engines.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a good starter guide to traffic exchanges in the Traffic Soliders members area.  It&#8217;s free to join:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.trafficsoldiers.com/?rid=212" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.trafficsoldiers.com/?rid=212'>http://www.trafficsoldiers.com/?rid=212</a></p>
<p>And, of course, you can study SEO at my Lucid SEO site (not free though I&#8217;m afraid):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lucid-seo.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.lucid-seo.com'>http://www.lucid-seo.com</a></p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbyanne</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/outsourcing-the-reality-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbyanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 11:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there David! My name is Debbyanne and i hope you do not mind me asking you a question? I joined you would say like an affiliate company and have my own free online shop and part of the business is to sell free online shops to customers and products. I am completely new to internet business and have got so much information on splash pages and joined traffic sites to help understand how i promote my site as it comes with a fully built website.and training. I would like to know how i get customers interested in buying and understanding down lines. I do not know how to let people know about my site and to promote it is there a way i can do it on a budget as i am not financially well off. If you couldd help me i would really appreciate it and found your blogs easy to understand and informative. Ps. How can i also do a splash page on the traffic sites as i do not understand how and how to add banners and text links? HElP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there David! My name is Debbyanne and i hope you do not mind me asking you a question? I joined you would say like an affiliate company and have my own free online shop and part of the business is to sell free online shops to customers and products. I am completely new to internet business and have got so much information on splash pages and joined traffic sites to help understand how i promote my site as it comes with a fully built website.and training. I would like to know how i get customers interested in buying and understanding down lines. I do not know how to let people know about my site and to promote it is there a way i can do it on a budget as i am not financially well off. If you couldd help me i would really appreciate it and found your blogs easy to understand and informative. Ps. How can i also do a splash page on the traffic sites as i do not understand how and how to add banners and text links? HElP!</p>
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		<title>By: David Congreave</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/outsourcing-the-reality-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>David Congreave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cindy - I gave hiring a VA a try (through GetFriday) after reading the four-hour work week but, unfortunately, after about six months I decided I just wasn&#039;t getting enough use out of it.

A lot of the work I wanted they couldn&#039;t do because it wasn&#039;t in their skill-set (installing a phpbb forum update, for example).  Installing a new script I wanted to test was also not permitted (even though it came with a user manual).

The few bits of research they did were hit and miss.  One or two were quite good, but others were a bit patchy.  For example, I asked for research on companies that could install and customise scripts - the results were all companies from India.  Not that I have anything against programmers from India, you understand, but it did suggest that perhaps the research had not been as broad as I&#039;d asked for.

In another instance, I managed to find better information than they&#039;d supplied with about ten minutes googling...

I think it&#039;s important to try and find the right kind of work that fits the VA you&#039;re working with - but in the end it was easier to increase my &quot;in-house&quot; admin&#039;s hours and give the work to her.

All fun stuff eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cindy &#8211; I gave hiring a VA a try (through GetFriday) after reading the four-hour work week but, unfortunately, after about six months I decided I just wasn&#8217;t getting enough use out of it.</p>
<p>A lot of the work I wanted they couldn&#8217;t do because it wasn&#8217;t in their skill-set (installing a phpbb forum update, for example).  Installing a new script I wanted to test was also not permitted (even though it came with a user manual).</p>
<p>The few bits of research they did were hit and miss.  One or two were quite good, but others were a bit patchy.  For example, I asked for research on companies that could install and customise scripts &#8211; the results were all companies from India.  Not that I have anything against programmers from India, you understand, but it did suggest that perhaps the research had not been as broad as I&#8217;d asked for.</p>
<p>In another instance, I managed to find better information than they&#8217;d supplied with about ten minutes googling&#8230;</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to try and find the right kind of work that fits the VA you&#8217;re working with &#8211; but in the end it was easier to increase my &#8220;in-house&#8221; admin&#8217;s hours and give the work to her.</p>
<p>All fun stuff eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Garland Coulson</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/outsourcing-the-reality-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Garland Coulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

Sounds very like my own experiences with trying to hire programmers.  I went through a lot of duds before I found the right one!

Thanks for sharing. 

Garland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Sounds very like my own experiences with trying to hire programmers.  I went through a lot of duds before I found the right one!</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing. </p>
<p>Garland</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/outsourcing-the-reality-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David
Just a quick note, I like doing all the work,
I must have the wrong mindset. But outsourcing
will increase profitablity?Thanks for the info
Paul

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David<br />
Just a quick note, I like doing all the work,<br />
I must have the wrong mindset. But outsourcing<br />
will increase profitablity?Thanks for the info<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Newell</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/outsourcing-the-reality-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiring people to help you can speed up your progress or just make things a bit easier. I&#039;ve hired webmasters previously and often found them cranky and difficult to work with. Recently me and a buddy hired a graphics guy through Rentacoder and we&#039;re really pleased.

A big difference between outsourcing and Joint Ventures is that outsourcing is cheaper! I&#039;m paying the rentacoder guy once but my JV partners get an ongoing share in the profits!

The other side of that is that my JV partner will work for no pay until the product is launched - an outsourcer wants prompt payment!

All The Best

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiring people to help you can speed up your progress or just make things a bit easier. I&#8217;ve hired webmasters previously and often found them cranky and difficult to work with. Recently me and a buddy hired a graphics guy through Rentacoder and we&#8217;re really pleased.</p>
<p>A big difference between outsourcing and Joint Ventures is that outsourcing is cheaper! I&#8217;m paying the rentacoder guy once but my JV partners get an ongoing share in the profits!</p>
<p>The other side of that is that my JV partner will work for no pay until the product is launched &#8211; an outsourcer wants prompt payment!</p>
<p>All The Best</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Malden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Malden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, hi,

Interesting - and I&#039;d never thought of working with someone else as &#039;outsourcing&#039;.

I teamed up with someone because his technical skills are a lot greater than mine - so now I can claim to have outsourced some stuff (but, I have to admit, without realising that I&#039;d actually done it!!)

Cheers,

Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, hi,</p>
<p>Interesting &#8211; and I&#8217;d never thought of working with someone else as &#8216;outsourcing&#8217;.</p>
<p>I teamed up with someone because his technical skills are a lot greater than mine &#8211; so now I can claim to have outsourced some stuff (but, I have to admit, without realising that I&#8217;d actually done it!!)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Battye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Battye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David,

Very interesting :)  I have recently read the 4 hour work week - and was inspired to start outsourcing more, and have now hired a full-time VA.  It&#039;s fantastic, but still really new - so I am keen to see what worked for you, and what didn&#039;t!

Cindy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David,</p>
<p>Very interesting <img src='http://www.thelucidblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I have recently read the 4 hour work week &#8211; and was inspired to start outsourcing more, and have now hired a full-time VA.  It&#8217;s fantastic, but still really new &#8211; so I am keen to see what worked for you, and what didn&#8217;t!</p>
<p>Cindy</p>
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