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		<title>By: Sam Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/forced-continuity-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-2062</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can anyone suggest a good seo book for beginners and dummies ?&quot;~~</description>
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		<title>By: Carlos Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/forced-continuity-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-2025</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 05:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone suggest a very good seo book?-&quot;*</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew A. Sailer</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/forced-continuity-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew A. Sailer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 09:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve enjoyed reading your post about hyip. A lot of members are thinking this is a scam. I decided to review hyip You may check it on my site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading your post about hyip. A lot of members are thinking this is a scam. I decided to review hyip You may check it on my site</p>
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		<title>By: David Congreave</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/forced-continuity-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>David Congreave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex - accusing Mike of operating a scam is unfair, and probably libellous.

I think I&#039;ve yet to hear or see one decent argument against Mike&#039;s offer.  Virtually all the criticism to date has been describing continuity promotions by OTHER marketers who have gone out of their way to hide the terms of the offer.

Maybe some people really believe Mike is &#039;pulling a fast one&#039;, but I&#039;ll bet there&#039;s a lot more who would strongly disagree.

If anyone is offended by continuity schemes, it&#039;s probably a good idea to unsubscribe from my lists now.  I&#039;ve promoted Mike&#039;s offer, for the last few years I&#039;ve been running a continuity scheme of my own and, in a few weeks, I&#039;ll be launching another one.

I&#039;ll look forward to getting my own round of accusations about being a crook - LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; accusing Mike of operating a scam is unfair, and probably libellous.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve yet to hear or see one decent argument against Mike&#8217;s offer.  Virtually all the criticism to date has been describing continuity promotions by OTHER marketers who have gone out of their way to hide the terms of the offer.</p>
<p>Maybe some people really believe Mike is &#8216;pulling a fast one&#8217;, but I&#8217;ll bet there&#8217;s a lot more who would strongly disagree.</p>
<p>If anyone is offended by continuity schemes, it&#8217;s probably a good idea to unsubscribe from my lists now.  I&#8217;ve promoted Mike&#8217;s offer, for the last few years I&#8217;ve been running a continuity scheme of my own and, in a few weeks, I&#8217;ll be launching another one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll look forward to getting my own round of accusations about being a crook &#8211; LOL</p>
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		<title>By: David Congreave</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Congreave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Get to work &amp;
Make some money &amp;
Quit demonizing the Gurus.&quot;

Amen to that!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Get to work &amp;<br />
Make some money &amp;<br />
Quit demonizing the Gurus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amen to that!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve said it all, my friend. 

I could not have said it better or agreed with you more. It is shameful the unscrupulous marketers (by the way Mike Filsaime in no way resembles unscrupulous) have brought us to this point. 

Are we doomed to hear ceaseless whining and bickering when one chooses to be &#039;cutting edge&#039; or (perish the thought) &#039;innovative&#039;?

I have an innovative suggestion for which I should be properly ridiculed and chastised....
Get to work &amp; 
Make some money &amp; 
Quit demonizing the Gurus.

Oh one more thing~&quot;If you don&#039;t want the goodies - don&#039;t accept them.&quot;

Thank you David for going to bat for Mike Filsaime who conducts his business with integrity.

Thanks Mike for the generous offer. (I got it too)

DS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve said it all, my friend. </p>
<p>I could not have said it better or agreed with you more. It is shameful the unscrupulous marketers (by the way Mike Filsaime in no way resembles unscrupulous) have brought us to this point. </p>
<p>Are we doomed to hear ceaseless whining and bickering when one chooses to be &#8216;cutting edge&#8217; or (perish the thought) &#8216;innovative&#8217;?</p>
<p>I have an innovative suggestion for which I should be properly ridiculed and chastised&#8230;.<br />
Get to work &amp;<br />
Make some money &amp;<br />
Quit demonizing the Gurus.</p>
<p>Oh one more thing~&#8221;If you don&#8217;t want the goodies &#8211; don&#8217;t accept them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you David for going to bat for Mike Filsaime who conducts his business with integrity.</p>
<p>Thanks Mike for the generous offer. (I got it too)</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Entrepreneur</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/forced-continuity-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Entrepreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s already been said but I&#039;ll reiterate it:

Forced continuity programs that are completely concealed from the buyer are childish and unevolved, in my opinion. Having the terms in fine print off the main sales page is just nonsense, and I feel sorry for a business that doesn&#039;t see enough value in their own offer to be straight with customers about it.

Having said that, there is ZERO foul play when an offer involves recurring payments and states very clearly the terms of this continuity. I agree with you David that we as marketers need not go out of our way to cater to the people who refuse to pay attention to what they are buying.

It&#039;s high time Internet users begin to take full responsibility for their actions! And thanks to the new Paypal policy, and the terms of many other payment processors, those of us selling digital products are not required to broker refunds just because a buyer asks for one.

I have changed my policies *aggressively* on this note, and I no longer allow a self-centered buyer to push me around and get the refund on grounds of their own laziness. This sounds harsh I&#039;m sure, but again it is time for some heavy handed education.

I dare say 80% of the people who are upset about forced continuity are complaining about offers where the terms were clearly marked. Frankly I&#039;m pleased by the idea of these folks logging off for good and just staying ot of the way of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s already been said but I&#8217;ll reiterate it:</p>
<p>Forced continuity programs that are completely concealed from the buyer are childish and unevolved, in my opinion. Having the terms in fine print off the main sales page is just nonsense, and I feel sorry for a business that doesn&#8217;t see enough value in their own offer to be straight with customers about it.</p>
<p>Having said that, there is ZERO foul play when an offer involves recurring payments and states very clearly the terms of this continuity. I agree with you David that we as marketers need not go out of our way to cater to the people who refuse to pay attention to what they are buying.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s high time Internet users begin to take full responsibility for their actions! And thanks to the new Paypal policy, and the terms of many other payment processors, those of us selling digital products are not required to broker refunds just because a buyer asks for one.</p>
<p>I have changed my policies *aggressively* on this note, and I no longer allow a self-centered buyer to push me around and get the refund on grounds of their own laziness. This sounds harsh I&#8217;m sure, but again it is time for some heavy handed education.</p>
<p>I dare say 80% of the people who are upset about forced continuity are complaining about offers where the terms were clearly marked. Frankly I&#8217;m pleased by the idea of these folks logging off for good and just staying ot of the way of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Newell</title>
		<link>http://www.thelucidblog.com/forced-continuity-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Newell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally disagree with your take on this David. We can all say &quot;Caveat Emptor&quot;  - let the buyer beware - but structuring things in the way that Filsaime has is directly and deliberately cynical in my view and one step short of fraud.

Forced continuity is not the issue here - the point is how he does it and a lot of people judge that he IS pulling a fast one.

He is not the only one. Lately we&#039;ve seen a number of these scams.

My attitude is not to moan about these &quot;business practises&quot; but to unsubscribe  from people who use them and those who promote them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally disagree with your take on this David. We can all say &#8220;Caveat Emptor&#8221;  &#8211; let the buyer beware &#8211; but structuring things in the way that Filsaime has is directly and deliberately cynical in my view and one step short of fraud.</p>
<p>Forced continuity is not the issue here &#8211; the point is how he does it and a lot of people judge that he IS pulling a fast one.</p>
<p>He is not the only one. Lately we&#8217;ve seen a number of these scams.</p>
<p>My attitude is not to moan about these &#8220;business practises&#8221; but to unsubscribe  from people who use them and those who promote them.</p>
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